See Jane Get Rich
A Personal Finance Blog-
February 26th, 2010Career, Law SchoolI had lunch with an attorney from the General Counsel’s office at my internship site and I ran over some of my plans with her. The current plan is to get a non-legal regulatory job and then use that experience to get a legal job. I told her I knew going the non-legal path first would make everything a little bit more difficult but if I wanted to avoid gaps in my resume, I should take a non-legal job for 1-2 years.
The attorney told me that going the non-legal route is not only makes obtaining a legal position down the road difficult but it is also a highly risky path to take. She said she had seen too many lawyers get stuck in non-legal positions and advised me to proceed with caution. Also, my legal skills would get shoddy from disuse. According to her, a law school graduate becomes a lawyer by doing legal work and getting feedback from other lawyers. It took her three years to feel competent in her skills as a junior lawyer. Integral to that transformation from law student to lawyer was doing legal work and having feedback from lawyers.
I also discussed with her another problem with pursuing a non-legal job. Your colleagues can feel intimidated by you. I am already experiencing this at my internship site.
A lot of things she said was hard to swallow and the only consolation at the end of the meal was that she picked up the check.
Tags: Career, First Job, Non-legal job, Reguatory Job -
February 21st, 2010Career, UncategorizedI met an attorney and I told her about how I was on Plan C and she tooked at me and said “you don’t really want a job!”
“What do you mean? I want a job.”
“No, you don’t. If you really wanted a job then you would have also applied for state clerkships and you would have…”
Jane: “But, I don’t want to do state clerkships.”
“See, you don’t want a job.”
Jane: “No, I don’t want ANY job.”
“I would much rather you be in a position to turn down a job than have nothing. You are working on plan A, then on plan B, now plan C. By working on things consecutively, you are setting yourself up for failure. You gotta have Plan’s A through Z and work on as many of them as possible. You have to stagger your approach. You have to do a full force job search none of this oh, I think I will like this. I need you to spend at least 2 hours a day looking for a job.”
Jane: “Two hours a day?!”
”There’s 168 hours in a week. What? You don’t have two hours to spent searching for jobs?”
Jane: “I can try to find two hours.”
“And, you can’t be egotistical. This is not the job market for that. I graduated from a top law school and worked at some of the best firms. I applied for 150 jobs last month. Guess how many calls I got? I got 4 interviews. In any other market, my resume would have been snatched up but not in this market.”
And…
I met this attorney on Friday. Before then, I didn’t think this consecutive job searching was a bad thing although I knew it wasn’t the best way to go about it. In some ways she is right about the fact that I don’t want a job. I don’t want any job just to say that I have a job. I would much rather leave the legal field behind and jump into something else rather than trying to make my way through a dead end profession where even a former Skadden associate like this attorney can’t find a job based on her superb qualifications. But, I am thankful for this encounter because it did force me to sit down and make a list of A through Z options to pursue after graduation. And, it did make me start spending 2 hours each day starting yesterday.
Tags: Career, Job searching -
January 27th, 2010Career, Great Recession, Law School, PF LessonsIn my last post, I pointed out that I made a difficult yet strategic decision. The difficult decision was between two externship choices. Internship 1 was a regulatory externship where I would get to do legal work. Internship #2 was also with a regulatory body but the internship would not be legal but it would be more related to my Master’s degree. I was hoping to do both internships but I was told that I could do only one because to do both would be a conflict of interest.
I had to make a decision about which internship to go with. If I am only thinking about the short-term then the best choice would be internship #1 because it is a legal internship that would relate to the kind of courses I am taking right now. Internship #1 is a highly desirable experience for a law student. Internship #2 offeres regulatory work which isn’t strictly legal. It also offered a smaller department to work in and a director who seemed eager to mentor incoming externs.
I chose internship #2 and here’s why.
Mentoring – I felt that internship #2 had a director who was more focused on mentoring. As a recipient of really good mentoring from many of my current and former mentors I strongly believe in it. I need to have an ally or a “true fan” on my corner. Having a mentor can smooth the road to attaining many goals. I need to be very careful about that crucial “first job” of my career and I can see myself being part of this organization and growing within in it. My director knows that I turned down a very sweet legal offer for the chance to work with her. Coming in to an organization with a favorable impression is golden.
I mentioned in my last post that I needed to get in the game. By getting an externship I am on the sidelines watching the game closely. My goal now is to make a move from the sidelines to the actual field and get in the game. In other words, I need to land a job here.
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January 22nd, 2010Career, Great Recession, Law School
And I need to start acting like it. It’s time to dust myself off and launch a new career strategy.
Not getting an offer from the firm that I worked for last summer was an absolute blow to my confidence and my skills. If I ever have been depressed in my life then it would have been from August to November. Going home for a month allowed me to take a mental break from the big muddle that is my soon-to-be-career. I am feeling better emotionally and last week I launched a difficult yet strategic move that may help my career.
Revised Career Strategy – 2020
Goal: In ten years, become skilled at financial regulatory work and position myself to become a senior associate for a law firm or to obtain a senior position with a financial firm.
First, get in the game.
Get a job in the financial regulatory industry to obtain experience.
Second, find other good players to model myself after.
Find engaging and skilled mentors with a pay-it-forward attitude.
Third, become a really good player.
Build an expectation of excellence and continually deliver on that expectation. Obtain skills by taking on challenging work. Take advantage of all educational and training opportunities. Build and strengthen the personal brand that is Jane.
Fourth, get true fans.
Build meaningful relationships not relationships simply for career advancement. Obtain true fans also through personal branding, networking and mentoring others.
Fifth, switch leagues.
Jump ship to become a senior associate for a regional law firm or a senior position with a financial firm.
Tags: Career, Career Strategy, Externship, First Job, Internship -
October 16th, 2009Law School
If you think as a student I am cocooned from the recession you couldn’t be further from the truth. The recession has cost me my first job as a lawyer.
In law school those who want to go into large law firm private practice follow the time honored playbook (1) take out all sorts of loans to pay for law school at a decent school, (2) bust your butt to get in the top of your class, (3) get an offer from a big law firm for a summer job after your 2nd year. The offer for a summer job basically guarantees you a job and a starting first year salary of $160K.
I skipped the first step by refusing to take out loans. But, I did bust my butt so I could do well academically. Step 2: Check. I did get an offer to work as a summer associate at a large prestigious law firm with offices all over the US and internationally after my first year and after my second year. Step 3: Check.
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